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([personal profile] drcpunk Nov. 2nd, 2008 01:20 am)
I don't grok iTunes yet. I used to use a music program that came with my music player, which is not an iPod. But, this program is a bit flakey and tends to decide that it can't find albums that I know it should be able to find online. So, I decided to try iTunes, since my primary music player is actually my laptop these days.

It's copying stuff just fine, but I can't figure out how to tell it, "Okay, show me the albums you have. No, not the individual songs, just the names of the album." And I don't yet know how to tell it, "Show me just the songs from one album, listing them in the order in which they appear on the album." I have only been using iTunes for a few hours, mostly watching it set itself up, so this may be a matter of a couple of minutes of experimentation, but it is not immediately obvious how to do these things.
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From: [personal profile] ckd


Try "Show Browser" in the View menu; I think that'll do what you want.

Also, the Search box in the upper right is a quick way to narrow down to just one album (or at least, one album plus whatever other random stuff matches your search string). Clicking on the column headers will let you change the sort behavior; "by artist", "by album", and "album by artist" will all list the tracks in the album order as long as the track number tags are set correctly.

From: [identity profile] drcpunk.livejournal.com


Got it, I think. Mostly. There's a few oddities, where a single song is listed. I need to figure out if that's the program's weirdness or a case where I did something weird. Thanks!
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From: [personal profile] jl8e


View->Show Browser will give you lists of artists, albums, and genres. (And annoyingly, you can't get rid of the genre one any more, which is too bad, 'cause it's useless.)

From there, you can probably figure out the other question.

(To change sort order, click on the column headings to say "sort by this column".)

Odds are all settings are in the View menu or the Preferences dialog.

To make sure you rip into mp3, you want the "Import Settings" button in the General preferences.

(Note: I am looking at the Mac version for this. Things may be a bit different in Windows.)

The online help might not suck.

From: [identity profile] drcpunk.livejournal.com


Thanks -- I was able to find it. Yeah, genres is pretty useless for my purposes.

Um, I think I ripped everything to mp3, but I'll check. There are some oddities.

First, I have about 9 - 10 gb worth of music, but iTunes only has 4 - 5 gb. I need to figure out if this is because mp3s are smaller than wmas, or if there's stuff it didn't copy over.

Second, I have duplicates. This is because I have duplicates due to careless copying or confusion from when I used the old software, entered in an album by hand, and then re-entered it when the software could actually find the album. I'm not sure how to figure out which version of a duplicate is best to kill, but I really don't need multiple copies of everything taking up laptop hard drive space.

Third, I have some weird cases where I get something with one or with fairly few songs. In the case of fairly few songs, I think this is because it was copying what I had when I copied a somewhat damaged CD, and thus only could copy a few of the songs. And, there are some CDs that only have 4 or 5 songs on them.

But, then there are some entries where it's a single song that is clearly from a CD where I have all the other songs, and I don't know what's up with that.

I currently have a bunch of podcasts as if they were music, because they were all in the music folder, but I might want to tell iTunes that they're actually podcasts.
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From: [personal profile] jl8e


Are some of your music files mp3s? It may have only added the converted WMAs.

From: [identity profile] drcpunk.livejournal.com


Some of them are, but it is also possible that the computer hadn't yet updated its settings. Um, that is, when I last clicked on "Properties" for the folder, I got 4 - 5 gbs listed. But, when I looked at the iTunes window, after adding 4 cds, it had 9 - 10 gbs listed, and those cds did not, I am fairly sure, have 5 - 6 gbs of stuff on them.

Either way, I'll need to compare everything, yes.

What I want to be able to do, if it's possible, is if I've got two versions of mp3 files -- one converted from wmas and one mp3s from the beginning -- being able to figure out which is which, and killing the mp3s that were converted from wmas, as they're likely to be of lower quality.

The way this situation would have come about is my copying all of [livejournal.com profile] mnemex's stuff on a card without having a chance to go through and edit the total collection for duplicates, since he's always done mp3s.
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From: [personal profile] mylescorcoran


iTunes has its annoyances, one of which is the way it handles where it keeps its music files. I tend to set it to keep the music organised in its own sub-folder, otherwise you can end up with music files scattered around your hard disk which appear in iTunes but aren't where you expect to find them when you look with a folder view in Windows Explorer.

There are two settings in the Advanced Preferences I leave checked:

1. Keep iTunes Music folder organized

2. Copy Files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library

The first enforces a folder naming scheme Artist\Album\Track Number & Name as sub-folders of the Music folder in the iTunes directory, the second means that it copies the file to iTunes Music folder and you can archive or delete the original file from wherever it was on the hard disk originally. This means everything that shows up in iTunes is actually in the iTunes\Music folder and not scattered about the hard disk. I just find that easier to track.

There's a Show Duplicates option under the File menu too that shows all the files with duplicate track names. It's not perfect (you can have multiple tracks with the same name, particularly 'Track 01' of 'Unknown Album') but you usually look at the album and artist name, file size, bit rate etc. to figure out what files are actually duplicates and which are not.

The only use I have for genres is to separate podcasts and spoken word from the music. I use 'Speech' or 'Podcast' for most of the spoken stuff, and 'Audiobook' for the actual books and use smart lists to track what belongs where.


From: [identity profile] drcpunk.livejournal.com


Thanks -- that's really useful. I'll try to set it up later.

I'm torn about how I want to handle podcasts. At the moment, I have music, podcasts, some audiobooks I've yet to copy, and one video/audio item -- Neil Gaiman's Graveyard Book tour. Still need to find time to hear and watch the last four parts of that.
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From: [personal profile] ckd


There's a secret pref to disable Genre in the browser. On the Mac, you use "defaults write com.apple.itunes show-genre-when-browsing -bool FALSE" in Terminal (with iTunes not running).

(Looks like the Windows version needs you to do this.)
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From: [personal profile] jl8e


Thanks

(I killed the store links, too.)

From: [identity profile] drcpunk.livejournal.com


Hm. I'm seeing the folder identifying the files in iTunes as .m4a -- is this a good thing or a bad thing?
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From: [personal profile] jl8e


That's AAC, not mp3. This is because it imported all your Windows Media player files before you changed any settings. Odds are you can discard your library and get it to re-import as mp3, but I couldn't tell you how.

(AAC is a standard, and is reasonably well-supported these days, but not as widely as mp3. It is a better format from a technical perspective. (File size and sound quality.))



From: [identity profile] drcpunk.livejournal.com


Well, if nothing else, I can delete the files in the iTunes folder. I still have the originals on the laptop.

From: [identity profile] drcpunk.livejournal.com


Okay, I have successfully deleted everything from the iTunes folder, and told iTunes to delete its lists. I've set things up to be mp3s. Now, I just need to figure out how to re-import everything into iTunes, as I don't want the folder I set up copied directly. It's probably File->Add Folder to Library.

From: [identity profile] ellen-denham.livejournal.com


The best way to see all the albums individually is to make a "smart playlist" for each of them. I generally do this as I upload things, since you've already got a lot of stuff uploaded this could be time consuming. But for instance, if the name of the album is "Atom Heart Mother," I set up a smart playlist with the criteria album=Atom Heart Mother and then I can scroll my list of playlists to check out my albums.

From: [identity profile] drcpunk.livejournal.com


Yeah, I need to make playlists, which I've not yet done for the iTunes library. Also, I have some random stuff, generally things that individual filkers offer on their websites, and I really need to organize that stuff.
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